CFUW 76, locked to Kuhn and the shepherd.

[vore_and_peace]

Good evening, Kuhn. I thought you should know that we are in a clue, along with teams 3 and 11.

Comments

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

I'm not exactly surprised, this tends to happen to me a lot...

[vore_and_peace]

I see. Hopefully it will not be a problem.

"99 is team 11, Shirley and Sara
3 is team 3, Shigure and Setsuna"

Between these, do you think either is likely a wolf?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

one has to be, and I honestly don't know them from previous games. if anything let's see how things go at the ousting.

[vore_and_peace]

Well, yes, one does, but I wasn't sure if you had an opinion on which of them it was likely to be.

I have little opinion on either, though team 3 seems mildly more suspicious to me than team 11.

[vore_and_peace]

Shall I vote, then? Do you have preferences?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

hmm... Shigure isn't reacting like he normally does. but that's what's putting him closer to "sheep" in my mind. I'd think he's be better at hiding it. i don't have much to go on, let me look at the other team

[vore_and_peace]

My concern is the way he dismissed the early vote against him as bias; now, I do not know him, but it seemed to deflect the questions.

And... Shirley, at least, seems very nice.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

He normally does that, he isn't doing it very well this time around. and, well his username automatically puts suspicion on him, he seems almost too convenient a wolf.

[vore_and_peace]

So you suspect the other team?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

well... the shepherd says he's doing it at random. it's not that I suspect the other team, but that they seemed less innocent. Now that Axel's said that though...

[vore_and_peace]

...I believe the shepherd was saying that the people in the clue were not deliberately picked so as to force someone up to vote early, simply that they were people who were appearing in the clue, probably due to the "prime number" issue.

But ...is it that you think it seems suspicious in that it implies that team had to be in a clue?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

It's more like that it would be too easy for shigure's team to be picked as a wolf, especially when the other team are young cheerful girls. Thinking that way though it would be just as easy to say that the other way was true too. Now that we have this there's a lot more on Shigure's team then the girls... but something's not sitting right with me choosing to vote them out. How do you see things?

[vore_and_peace]

...

Well, we have no proof in either direction. I have only talked, of any of them, to Shirley, and she seems like a very nice, genuine person, who I would like the chance to speak and play more with.

And from what I saw in that post, Setsuna would rather be voted out than see Sara go. That, I think, is a decision that I would like to respect.

It is a game, after all.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

...I don't exactly want to lose, but at this stage i have a feeling there's a mistake being made, just a little bit less on Sera's side. If that's what you want to go with I don't think it will do much good to argue with you with so little time left.

[vore_and_peace]

If it is bias, you can vote, but we have little time to decide.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

...Sera's team, if that's okay with you.

[vore_and_peace]

Very well. But I ask, then, that you cast the vote, because I will not vote for them.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry Jinana, if I seem biased feel free to tell me okay?

[vore_and_peace]

No, I have the bias. I simply feel some things are more valuable than a win or a loss, and that makes me a poor partner.

But we are nearly out of time. Vote.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

I've done that. They can still talk outside of the game right? Don't worry... allright?

[vore_and_peace]

I suppose so.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

...someone changed their vote at the last second. Looks like Setsuna got what he wanted anyway.

[vore_and_peace]

...Is that so? Did you see who?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

no, it doesn't say who until the poll closes

[vore_and_peace]

I meant who had switched their vote. Are you sure it was a vote switch?

I am glad that it is left up to chance, though, in a way. It feels more... fair.

Kuhn, why are they viewed as being 'wrong'?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

well, same thing I can't tell who voted until the thing closes anyway. but i did see Sera's team was in the lead by one vote until the last minute.

It looks like some wolves might have been trying to spread the vote around. Okay they do that pretty often but...

[vore_and_peace]

Do you recall how many points each had? Because if it was 5:4, someone else simply voted, I think.

It is possible, yes...

[awkward pause]

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

4:5; I checked.

Jinana? What's wrong?

[vore_and_peace]

All right. That is good to know.

Ah -- did you miss my question in the heat of the game, or would you prefer not to answer?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

Hm? I think I did, what was it?

[vore_and_peace]

About the "incest" thing. I... people seem very troubled by it.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

It's based originally in inbreeding. Too many problems can come out that way, and a lot of it is the social background that you come from. In some parts of Japan it still happens, but for the most part it's not really considered something that's good to do.

[vore_and_peace]

Is there such thing as a wrong love, then?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

Depends which culture you're talking about. In some cultures it's perfectly fine to marry the same sex, or someone you're related to, or a number of different things. In other places if you get involved with someone from a different religion or country it's considered bad.

[vore_and_peace]

It's sad... I feel... a lot of the time, people forget what's really important. Yes, other ties, and other values... they too have importance, but are those not also in the heart?

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

When you're raised on these things they just become a part of how you think. I mean, how would you feel if someone told you that the laws of the Junkyard weren't as important as you thought?

[vore_and_peace]

[quiet] I have been told that, and it was the truth. It is hard, to know that what you have lived for is a lie.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry about that.

[vore_and_peace]

No, it is a fair question. And... a good thing, I think. If the Karma Temple's laws are not an absolute, then war is not an absolute, and there may be something outside of it.

I wish I had... become aware of it sooner.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

...

[vore_and_peace]

But I do take your meaning, and I understand. Laws and rules that dominate one like that... thinking outside of them is nearly impossible.

[vore_and_peace]

...On a different note. Shigure and Setsuna's now-unlocked post seems to me a strong indication they were wolves. Recently wolves did quite well, I believe, by putting up a 'fake' partner post to show people their discussion and 'prove' that they are sheep ... the surface level nature of the discussion in this one ...

I do not know that I can convince you, yet I am convinced now, bias entirely aside.

[toppedbyzaworld.livejournal.com]

It's far too shallow. No, you have a good point there. If it was just them going by gut instinct it still would have more then that. This also makes me wonder if Tohru's team is being led along or are wolves themselves.